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Greg B's avatar

Navy veteran here with 20 years piloting military helicopters, plus over 20 years flying medical helicopters, 6000+ flight time, NVG instructor with over 800 NVG time. What is obvious to me is that anyone can have an opinion, no matter how ill informed it may be. No one knows yet why the accident happened, and it will probably be 6-12 months before the NTSB odors a final report, and even then there may not be a clear determination.

Maybe CAPT Lobach’s family scrubbed her social media and their own because they realized that thoughtless, clueless morons like some on this thread would gleefully trash her reputation online, without any knowledge of the facts. The truth is, even the best pilots sometimes make mistakes; sometimes they’re lucky enough to survive and learn from them, sometimes they’re not. No one knows if DEI had anything to do with this accident, even the President, and certainly no one on this thread.

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Dave Slough's avatar

Explain why the DEI hire’s entire family had their online presence scrubbed

Come on dude crawl back under your rock

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Dan Gardner's avatar

Maybe they did it because there so many online psychopaths. You know, like some of the people here. And you.

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MrFishMan's avatar

Because people like you will terrorize her family and friends. Because you and your bigoted buddies now use the term "DEI" to mean "Not White Male", and you have no idea how qualified she was, never mind that she was flying with a seasoned white male instructor pilot, and she had a lot of flight time in this same machine. I'm not crawling back under a rock. You are taking up all the room.

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Julie's avatar

She was suicided

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Daniel Lobsenz's avatar

2 years ago a business i used to work for and still had a close relationship with was accused of some bullshit. I publicly defended them in the press as someone who had first hand knowledge of the bogus accusations. I shut down most of my social media to avoid online harassment, especially since I saw many of the existing employees suffering from it already.

the incident didn’t involve the deaths of over 60 people and wasn’t erroneously discussed by the president before any facts came out. it was a small local scandal that had gained some traction on TikTok and that’s about it.

So the family shutting down social media is not at all surprising or unreasonable

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Midwest Molly's avatar

Bingo!! The very people who are calling her a DEI Lesbian and feverishly pouring over the internet are wondering why the family "scrubbed" her socials? Look in the mirror. There is your answer.

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Mary's avatar

Honest question for you; how unusual is this scenario, has it ever happened before?

I have no wish to pursue DEI speculation and have zero flight expertise but to me it looks impossible that the helicopter pilot couldn’t see the plane and try to evade it.

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Dave Slough's avatar

The helo pilot was aiming for the plane

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Mike A's avatar

If you are not a pilot it is impossible to explain the potential confusion that exists in night flight, especially at low altitude in an urban airspace with other traffic in close proximate

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Frank N's avatar

Less DEI she/him isn't flying the chopper. Bet you have excuses for all of the illegal alien criminal's as well.

Oh, and who gives a sh1t about your navy pilot BS...how many near misses with commercial airliners do you have??

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Randie Walton's avatar

We all knew she was put in that plane because of Joe Biden’s disgusting policies. Biden hired all kinds of people, many handicapped and unqualified. The truth should be out there. They don’t hesitate to post all the dirt about Donald Trump so let’s get everybody’s dirt out there for the public to see.

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Ashe's avatar

I was looking for it, but I remember reading that her father‘s company has some kind of technology that most of the governments in the world want right now and some people think that it was linked to her death.

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Michelle McKool's avatar

Perhaps, but when they lie and/or deceive, they lose credibility on the rest. Some of us are done trusting proven liars.

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Steveo's avatar

And then there’s reality, which is everything the government says is a lie. And 99.9% of the time familys want their stuff up so people can memorialize. And if anyone should know, it’s the one in charge of the whole show.

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glenn's avatar

Thank you for making your case. Nothing on this thread, which seems to be cycling around again, makes any case for this woman to be a bad apple. If anything, all the social posts dredged up shows nothing more than she was proud of her military service. To this day in early April, nothing has been revealed from any actual investigation. Trashing service members without actual evidence is shameful.

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Chris thorpe's avatar

Look into her parents and what THEY DO.

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No Use For a Band/Name's avatar

Thank you for the intelligent and informed response. This article is ridiculous clickbait.

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Fred Mcguire's avatar

Amen. Well said. The initial reports stated an altitude that was reportedly in disagreement with other sources. It will take time to sort out the facts of the matter. For instance was the civilian pilot cheating with altitude and planning to make it up with power and flaps given the change to the shorter runway? I have been a passenger on commercial flights at least no less than 50 or 75 times and the magic of flying the river sometimes causes a noticeable difference in approach on final. A

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Mike A's avatar

Greg….don’t you think it was altimeter? Failure to set it before takeoff. She thought she was within the 200’ corridor

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SocialCritic's avatar

Captain Lobach graduated with a biology degree. Lobach’s parents are both physicians (her father apparently works at Duke University). In addition, there is allegedly a tie-in between one or both parents and COVID-19 research/vaccines.

It's difficult to understand how she allegedly had no deployments but was deemed ready to serve as an escort for VIPs, such as Ralph Lauren when he received the Presidential Medal of Freedom Award from President Biden. She also worked as a "social" staffer for the Biden admin.

Although she was among the top 20% of ROTC cadets, per reports, it would appear she was put in a position to train other pilots after relatively few flight hours herself. This is suggestive of "not what you do but who you know".

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Paul R Carmichael's avatar

I noticed immediately that this was not what we were expecting in the crash aftermath. First thing was it seemed to be a coverup of the information. The next am. After he crash a former black hawk pilot had started examining the crash to see what happened. He described the scene in detail. He stated that 3 people were in the Helicopter. One an examiner who would check. Pilot as how they were progressing. The 3rd person was a crew of the helicopter.He stated the pilot was a female, 28, with 500 hrs of training. There was communication with the tower. . The were told by the tower because of airplane landing to stay at the low altitude of 200 feet. The next event quickly was the helicopter flew into he airplane. He did not say directly who was at fault but by his description you could realize that it was the pilots error would the cause. It seems to me the military like our government has been putting people in jobs just because of a certain ideology they belonged to.I just after the inspection will give us the facts, not s cover-up.

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Constance's avatar

She spent two years at the White House

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Saint Jimmy's avatar

She’s a lesbian from a wealthy, influential family. DC is full of spoiled brats like this.

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Texana's avatar

Should be illegal removing evidence.

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David Merrifield's avatar

The Army is covering for the CIA.

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Grand Mal Twerkin's avatar

Someone is a covering for… some reason. It reeks

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Hermit Hank's avatar

From what is being reported she's gay but that doesn't mean she's a DEI hire. Although, maybe what was purged from her social accounts proved that she was DEI. Someone knows so the information will come out.

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Grand Mal Twerkin's avatar

There’s not even confirmation of her gayness, although it’s a safe bet. She seems to have been a very driven, capable, and accomplished person. I wonder if the DEI problem Trump referred to was in air traffic control, not the helicopter

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Richard Stanton's avatar

Yes, the DEI issue Trump speaks of is ATC. My wife is retired ATC, 34 yrs as an ATC. She has harsh words for DEI hiring… it’s going to get many, many people killed flying commercial. There are some really STUPID people directing air traffic.

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Richard Stanton's avatar

I saw a report on NewsMax today that an ATC whistleblower confirmed that a DEI activist within ATC provided the answers to an ATC test to DEI applicants. And we wonder why the recent rash of crashes & near misses of air traffic. Thanks libtards for destroying commercial flight safety.

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Grand Mal Twerkin's avatar

ATC doesn’t clock in until nightfall? I had no idea

BTW, the sun set in DC at 5:26 PM on January 29, and the collision happened at 8:48 PM, pinhead

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Richard Stanton's avatar

The crash happened at night. There’s video.

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Mike A's avatar

She failed to set the altimeter at runway elevation before takeoff. Check ride pressure.

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Katherine Blair's avatar

Because people like you would make the worst possible interpretation of what she had on her social media. YOU AND PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE THE REASON HER FAMILY FELT THEY HAD TO DO THIS. FIGURE IT OUT.

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James D Teel II's avatar

Because if there was nothing to hide, or nothing of which they should be ashamed, there’d be nothing to scrub.

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Katherine Blair's avatar

Oh, bullshit! People can take the most innocuous remark and turn it into something sinister. You know this! Her family knows this. Everyone knows this! "Nothing to hide" doesn't work anymore.

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James D Teel II's avatar

It works because it’s true regardless of your posturing otherwise.

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Katherine Blair's avatar

Gosh, I have never postured before! Is that what you call telling it like it is? It seems like it is. So, yeah. I am damned good at it!

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Dave's avatar

Total cover up

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Judith's avatar

If you want the very interesting information about her father’s “doings” read George Webb substacks. The plot thickens. A wealth of information

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Dave Slough's avatar

George Webb is great for exposing truth

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Constance's avatar

There was an article about Covid whistleblower on helicopter. It disclosed more information

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Dan Gardner's avatar

Jesus Christ. Ever consider that they scrubbed their accounts because there are hordes of insane conspiracists online who would do exactly what you’re doing?

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Tim's avatar

I don’t care what her sexual preference is as long as she’s the best in class qualified to fly a military helicopter. The fact that she was chosen as the ‘poster child’ ambassador for special friends of the WH is curious. Something is very sketchy about the whole thing. The truth will come out—there are several potential culprits.

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Richard Stanton's avatar

Retest ALL DEI hires in ALL agencies, bureaus, departments. Use the pre-DEI-era test for all. Purge the idiots who fail the test. ONLY THE BEST AND BRIGHTEST, REGARDLESS OF RACE & GENDER. Death to Affirmative Action.

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AntiDeepState's avatar

Always hiding TRUTH!

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Steve Brule's avatar

Her photo shows long straggly hair that could get entangled on anything. Whenever women are admitted to male groups, all standards are discarded, no matter how important they are. This deference to the female needs to end in the West.

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Ivan Pharteen's avatar

What did she have to hide? Her hatred for Trump and the fact she had issues and wasn’t qualified to fly that plane? I think her media needs to be posted. Beginning to sound like a cover up and I can only assume that she is a piece of shit. I feel badly for her family!

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American in Exile's avatar

Guarantee Lobach was NOT a "talented pilot" as her friend claims. Almost every photo is with her mouth open and smiling. I get it, there are happy people, and that's okay. But I don't want a happy person flying the Black Hawk I'm inside. I want them to be deadly serious and focused. Again, I have no doubt she totally sucked as a pilot.

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